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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14130</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was both ad hoc and ad hom! The blog is like an open mike. I certainly don&#039;t need it, or the support. I will just say later maybe?
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was both ad hoc and ad hom! The blog is like an open mike. I certainly don&#8217;t need it, or the support. I will just say later maybe?<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14127</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not, I am sure you will find time to spread it around the blogosphere. Or perhaps in emails. Maybe you should just write a blog post on the matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not, I am sure you will find time to spread it around the blogosphere. Or perhaps in emails. Maybe you should just write a blog post on the matter?</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14126</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but Fr. Robert, if you would allow the grace of God in and cease man&#039;s knowledge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but Fr. Robert, if you would allow the grace of God in and cease man&#8217;s knowledge!</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14124</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some other Christian brethren can step up here and help you?  I mean on this here blog?  But your constant denial of God eternally triune is noted I hope?
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some other Christian brethren can step up here and help you?  I mean on this here blog?  But your constant denial of God eternally triune is noted I hope?<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14123</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 22:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,
I would have loved to have had you in my seminary classroom!  This is what the Orthodox believe, i.e. from their oral tradition somewhat. You are in such grave error here on your denial of the Trinity of God!  Maybe someday you will see this?  But only grace again can change our dull hearts &amp; minds!
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,<br />
I would have loved to have had you in my seminary classroom!  This is what the Orthodox believe, i.e. from their oral tradition somewhat. You are in such grave error here on your denial of the Trinity of God!  Maybe someday you will see this?  But only grace again can change our dull hearts &amp; minds!<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14122</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel knows what? The doctrine of the Trinity was developed, I will give you that, but from oral tradition? Hardly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel knows what? The doctrine of the Trinity was developed, I will give you that, but from oral tradition? Hardly.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14121</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The doctrine of the Trinity is also a very Eastern and Orthodox teaching, going back into their teaching and even oral tradition. Joel knows this also. The great doctrine of the Triinity of God is both a unity within a triunity, and forever one of the very great mysteries of God!  As St. Paul wrote, &quot;Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.&quot; (1 Cor. 4:1)
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The doctrine of the Trinity is also a very Eastern and Orthodox teaching, going back into their teaching and even oral tradition. Joel knows this also. The great doctrine of the Triinity of God is both a unity within a triunity, and forever one of the very great mysteries of God!  As St. Paul wrote, &#8220;Let a man so consider us, as servants of Christ and stewards of the mysteries of God.&#8221; (1 Cor. 4:1)<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samuels</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14120</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sounds like, then, any religion who disagress with the mainstream view of Christianity that developed after the 3rd Century, and the solidifcation of the Trinity doctrine by what became the Roman Catholic Church, and who believe in Jesus as God&#039;s Son, is to be considered a &quot;cult&quot;.  This is the problem with the Evanglicals who believe strongly in the Trinity. If you don&#039;t go along with their flow, then your religion is labeled as  a cult. We preach strongly the message of Jesus, as God&#039;s Son, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, we also baptize in the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit, but we don&#039;t believe the three are one and the same, but that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God, sent by God and who died for mankind&#039;s sins, and was resurrected to heaven to sit at God&#039;s right hand. The Trinity doctrine isn&#039;t clearly illucidated in the Bible, the Jews prior to Jesus were strictly monotheistic and had no idea of a Trinity or even a duality of the godhead or of God. They worshipped only Yahweh, who said  - I am one. Deut 6:4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like, then, any religion who disagress with the mainstream view of Christianity that developed after the 3rd Century, and the solidifcation of the Trinity doctrine by what became the Roman Catholic Church, and who believe in Jesus as God&#8217;s Son, is to be considered a &#8220;cult&#8221;.  This is the problem with the Evanglicals who believe strongly in the Trinity. If you don&#8217;t go along with their flow, then your religion is labeled as  a cult. We preach strongly the message of Jesus, as God&#8217;s Son, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, we also baptize in the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit, but we don&#8217;t believe the three are one and the same, but that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God, sent by God and who died for mankind&#8217;s sins, and was resurrected to heaven to sit at God&#8217;s right hand. The Trinity doctrine isn&#8217;t clearly illucidated in the Bible, the Jews prior to Jesus were strictly monotheistic and had no idea of a Trinity or even a duality of the godhead or of God. They worshipped only Yahweh, who said  &#8211; I am one. Deut 6:4.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14119</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JW&#039;s are simply a cult because they teach and disciple people away from both the proper doctrine of the Incarnation - Christ as both God &amp; Man, dual in nature, not dual in Person, both perfect God and perfect Man. And also the eternal Son of the Father, in God Triune!
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JW&#8217;s are simply a cult because they teach and disciple people away from both the proper doctrine of the Incarnation &#8211; Christ as both God &amp; Man, dual in nature, not dual in Person, both perfect God and perfect Man. And also the eternal Son of the Father, in God Triune!<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14117</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, they consider me a heretic as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, they consider me a heretic as well.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samuels</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14115</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on that point. Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are heretical Arians. The Catholic Church would have burned us at the stake, with our Bibles tied to us, if we lived in the dark ages for disagreeing with the Trinity. Thanks for the response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on that point. Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are heretical Arians. The Catholic Church would have burned us at the stake, with our Bibles tied to us, if we lived in the dark ages for disagreeing with the Trinity. Thanks for the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14114</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, JW&#039;s are Arians, a heresy pure and simple. This was not practiced in the 1st century. I agree, however, that &#039;cult&#039; is thrown around to easily to dismiss those that we disagree with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, JW&#8217;s are Arians, a heresy pure and simple. This was not practiced in the 1st century. I agree, however, that &#8216;cult&#8217; is thrown around to easily to dismiss those that we disagree with.</p>
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		<title>By: John Samuels</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14112</link>
		<dc:creator>John Samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Jehovah&#039;s Witness. I take exception to comments made on the Internet that Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are a radical cult. I work secularly as a school teacher in public schools. I associate at work, sometimes after work with my wife, with persons from her job which is at a bank. People talk to her at the bank about their  problems, and she&#039;s helped many to get through some very tough situations. We have together helped some people out of child abuse, and the Watchtower publications and the Watchtower in Brooklyn have supported and helped us in doing so. 

There are some sites on the Internet that refer to Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses as a cult This site refers to Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses as a &quot;radical cult&quot;. In reading some of these posts, it seems as if any religion that doesn&#039;t practice Christianity in the Orthodox way, or doesn&#039;t believe in the Trinity, is labeled a cult. That&#039;s ridiculous. Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses practice Christianity pretty close to the way it was practiced in the 1st Century. People called the first century Christians a &quot;sect&quot;. Today Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are labeled &quot;a cult&quot;. I spoke today in school with a doctor of divnity from a Pentecostal Church. He knows Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, had been once to the Kingdom Hall, and was confused as to why Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are called a cult? I am also. It is a religion. It is seperate from what you could say &quot;worldly&quot; things, immorality, drunkenness, etc. We don&#039;t go to war or salute the flag. We take our Christianity seriously and put God&#039;s worship first, but we also participate in the local school, the community, work-related things. My wife attended a party this week for a girl who was leaving work, I&#039;ve gone to work-related parties, that are not for holidays, and unless people ask, they don&#039;t know that we are Witnesses, because we are the same as anyone else. So, in what way are we part of a cult?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Jehovah&#8217;s Witness. I take exception to comments made on the Internet that Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are a radical cult. I work secularly as a school teacher in public schools. I associate at work, sometimes after work with my wife, with persons from her job which is at a bank. People talk to her at the bank about their  problems, and she&#8217;s helped many to get through some very tough situations. We have together helped some people out of child abuse, and the Watchtower publications and the Watchtower in Brooklyn have supported and helped us in doing so. </p>
<p>There are some sites on the Internet that refer to Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses as a cult This site refers to Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses as a &#8220;radical cult&#8221;. In reading some of these posts, it seems as if any religion that doesn&#8217;t practice Christianity in the Orthodox way, or doesn&#8217;t believe in the Trinity, is labeled a cult. That&#8217;s ridiculous. Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses practice Christianity pretty close to the way it was practiced in the 1st Century. People called the first century Christians a &#8220;sect&#8221;. Today Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are labeled &#8220;a cult&#8221;. I spoke today in school with a doctor of divnity from a Pentecostal Church. He knows Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, had been once to the Kingdom Hall, and was confused as to why Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are called a cult? I am also. It is a religion. It is seperate from what you could say &#8220;worldly&#8221; things, immorality, drunkenness, etc. We don&#8217;t go to war or salute the flag. We take our Christianity seriously and put God&#8217;s worship first, but we also participate in the local school, the community, work-related things. My wife attended a party this week for a girl who was leaving work, I&#8217;ve gone to work-related parties, that are not for holidays, and unless people ask, they don&#8217;t know that we are Witnesses, because we are the same as anyone else. So, in what way are we part of a cult?????</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14023</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, having said that, his thoughts on the Triunity of God, and his understanding that humanity has a triune reality (Augustine), and that the Trinity of God is a basic Christian revelation, he does not deny.
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, having said that, his thoughts on the Triunity of God, and his understanding that humanity has a triune reality (Augustine), and that the Trinity of God is a basic Christian revelation, he does not deny.<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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		<title>By: Polycarp</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14022</link>
		<dc:creator>Polycarp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reminded, that while Hislop wrote what he did, he remained to the end, Trinitarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded, that while Hislop wrote what he did, he remained to the end, Trinitarian.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Robert</title>
		<link>http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/2009/10/the-two-babylons/#comment-14020</link>
		<dc:creator>Fr. Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hislop&#039;s book is typical of the common anti-Catholic bias in the era of the British (UK) at that time. It has huge wholes in it, both historical and to supposed scholarship.
Fr. R.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hislop&#8217;s book is typical of the common anti-Catholic bias in the era of the British (UK) at that time. It has huge wholes in it, both historical and to supposed scholarship.<br />
Fr. R.</p>
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