Comments on: Disturbing: Is Rick Warren Okay with Uganda’s New Anti-Gay Law?

By: Polycarp

Polycarp — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:37:52 +0000

I would assume, Robert, that Angie is a forerunner for Rick. Sometimes, the big namers have PR people do these comments.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:32:10 +0000

Angie: Since when is it such a big deal for a Christian minister to reaffirm his support for the 10 Commandments??

By: Polycarp

Polycarp — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:27:34 +0000

Angie, Rick has taken a political stance in Uganda with his PEACE plan. Surely, he can condemn these laws if he wants too.

By: Angie

Angie — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:22:32 +0000

OF PASTOR RICK & KAY WARREN

REGARDING ACTIVITIES OF MARTIN SSEMPA IN UGANDA

Martin Ssempa does not represent me, my wife Kay, Saddleback Church, nor the Global PEACE Plan strategy. In 2007, we completely severed contact with Mr. Ssempa when we learned that his views and actions were in serious conflict with our own. Our role, and the role of the PEACE Plan, whether in Uganda or any other country, is always pastoral and never political. We vigorously oppose anything that hinders the goals of the PEACE Plan: Promoting reconciliation, Equipping ethical leaders, Assisting the poor, Caring for the sick, and Educating the next generation.

By: Polycarp

Polycarp — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:16:24 +0000

I am worried about the dangers of generalization. Case in point – all homosexuals are pedophiles and have AIDS (a stupid one because plenty of heterosexuals are pedophiles as well.) It causes anger and hatred against the entire group when the entire group is generalized based on a small, small number.

Further, while the President of Uganda is claiming the name of Christ in doing what he is doing, there is not evidence that he has ‘converted.’ Further, such reactions against homosexuals is not foreign on the African continent. What is troubling about this, is the amount of Evangelical support (The Family, etc..) that Uganda is receiving in this, and yes, refusing to condemn this is passive support.

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:51 +0000

Is it not a generalization to say that all generalization is bad? (j/k)

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2009/11/american-right-wing-christians-behind.html

Prominent Christian leaders who are supported by thousands of followers want to kill gay people just for being gay.

And you’re worried about the impoliteness of generalizing?

By: Polycarp

Polycarp — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:54:08 +0000

Robert, I think it is wholly unfair to generalize all Christians, don’t you think? There are plenty of Christians who are condemning the behaviour of Uganda in this, and indeed, calling on Warren to use his special position to call for the appeal of these laws. Generalization is an ugly thing, I believe.

By: Robert

Robert — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:43:55 +0000

Rick Warren flat-out lied that he doesn’t want to comment on another country’s laws…he does it all the time.

Someone please explain how Christians can routinely cause, call for, and/or tacitly approve the slaughter of people who don’t fit their mold of how to live? Even giving the appearance of this evil is abhorrent. I suppose I didn’t realize that there was such vagary in the Christian community about government-sanctioned murder, what with all their “pro-life” rallies.

Bottom line: an under-developed fetus is more valuable to Christians than a gay adult. DISGUSTING!

Oh, but Christians will find some magic way to become the victim in this story…