Apr 13 2009

Colbert gives a smack down to Biblical Scholar Bart Ehrman

Category: Debate/Discussion, TheologyPolycarp @ 6:52 pm

Why couldn’t South Carolina allowed him to run for president?

Dr. Russell Moore points out:

“I never thought I’d say “Amen” to television satirist Stephen Colbert, but Colbert’s asking Bart Ehrman, “Oh, so you know the early Jews better than the early Jews?” is just classic. It’s a question that should be asked to more people, and more often. Colbert is here for a moment. So is Ehrman. So are we. But Jesus is risen, and he is everything.

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From here:

One of Ehrman’s main points goes unchallenged on the show, however. That being that the earliest Christians didn’t think Jesus was divine. Ehrman’s argument seems to be that even though Jesus is clearly portrayed as being divine in the Gospel of John (which he admits), in the (ostensibly earlier) synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, & Luke) he is not portrayed as being God. So, Ehrman is saying, since the synoptics are earlier and don’t portray Jesus as God, John can be dismissed as a later invention (or evolution) of the Jesus story.

At the outset, this black-and-white distinction is false, since reading the synoptics should not result in anyone thinking that the authors intended to portray Jesus as “just a guy”. Even if someone wants to claim Jesus is not divine in the synoptics, it would be ridiculous to say that Jesus is not seen as being utterly unique and far above and beyond all other people who have ever lived.

But when Ehrman’s claim that Jesus’ divinity is absent from the synoptic gospels is studied more carefully, there are at least two huge problems. First, I think it’s false that Jesus’ divinity is not found in the synoptics. There are in fact many ways the authors speak of Jesus’ divinity in the synoptics. I’ve explained one of these ways in depth in my post “Jesus Never Claimed to be God?“. I think we can see in the early synoptic gospel writings how the authors are struggling to comprehend this god-man, this real human being who lived and ate and walked with them, but who at the same time was nevertheless “God in the flesh”. (See also Glenn Miller on the subject of Jesus’ self-understanding in the synoptics.)

The second problem is that the synoptic gospels are not the earliest documents in the New Testament. The earliest documents are generally agreed to be Paul’s letters, which contain some of the strongest statements of Jesus’ divinity, such as Colossians 2:9: “For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form” and Philippians 2:5-7: “Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.” Therefore, going by Ehrman’s method, since Paul’s writings are earlier than the synoptics, the should be trusted instead, and these statements regarding Jesus’ divinity should be believed ahead of the later synoptic gospels’ descriptions.

A featured article series currently on TheLife.com, written by Canadian philosopher Michael Horner, investigates Jesus’ resurrection as final proof of Jesus’ divinity; ie, that not only did Jesus claim to be divine, but that the resurrection validated His claim. Please take a moment today to read “Did Jesus Really Rise from the Dead?

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Jun 27 2008

Weekly News and Thoughts from Around the Blogosphere, 6-27

Category: Abortion, Rick Warren, Weekly NewsPolycarp @ 10:17 am

I have found myself really coming to like these types of posts. It allows me to say more with less. After all, the best commentary to this world is actions that we see.

As I posted earlier… A response to Todd’s defense letter. Of course, you will always have those people that defend him against scripture and sanity. And more in Todd and the Glass Eyeball

And what is Friday without a video about ole Todd…Notice the children…

Or for those not convinced yet that Todd is a devil…

And even with all of the Todd garbage, this still makes me sick, not that I put much faith the those apostates, I mean ‘apostles‘.

This should be a no brainier, but…

What is going on in Europe?

Does this matter?

Does the world need any more reasons for abortion?

N.T. Wright on Colbert. Who doesn’t like Colbert? And a review of his book here.

Fredrick Douglas’ attempt at reconciliation is most poignant. (The whole letter here)

A Pentecostal Defence for an unshorn woman, pt.1 and pt. 2

Good post from John Hobbins on the State of Trust in this union.

Lutherans may not, but God does.

I don’t care much for this conspiracy-minded blogger, but he does have his points like this one.

Did a KJVO write this?

A Great resource for Patristics and something for the Catholics and Orthodox here.

A post on the procession of the Trinity but who needs doctrine? Doctrine is bad….

Photos from the find in Jordan called a Church

I have it and appreciate this review.

The four letter word…mom

Who listens to the Bible anyway, I like polls! Besides, Faith is only hereditary.

Living in a shack will get you places (the wrong places) maybe even Canada

Something really cool here

More from Rick Warren and Soulfarce… (ha! I made a funny – that everyone else has made)

A good point here on ‘All Israel’

Is music neutral? Someone thinks not.

Did I get something for everyone? I hope so… If not, maybe next week.

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