Aug 03 2009

Does God Still Love the Wayward Christian?

Category: DevotionalPolycarp @ 7:59 pm

This post in response to a comment on another post. It is directed towards me as anyone, but I hope someone can get something out of it.

I am convinced that only the sin of apostasy – when we abandon and rebel against Christ – can separate us from Christ.

But what if we become wayward in our walk with God – what if we stumble and fall and begin to drift away? What if we are abandoned by the ministry, by the congregation, by others?

More than a few years ago now, I had recently been unceremoniously dumped by my fiancee. It tore me apart. Deeply. Wounded. I became angry with God, distrustful, separated from the holiness in God – by my hand – and gave up trying to serve God. I sought someone who was opposite of anyone that I had dated before. So, I found her. Well, long story short, we found ourselves pregnant – before marriage. In love, no less.

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Oct 25 2008

Tertullian, On Modesty Chapter IV and V – Adultery Prohibitions

Category: Church Fathers, TertullianPolycarp @ 5:56 pm

Continuing our reading of Tertullian’s ‘On Modesty’:

It would be difficult for me to see that adultery, and fornication, committed by a Saint would be unforgivable; therefore, as I read Tertullian, I understand adultery in light of Hosea, the prophet who speaks of Israel’s spiritual adultery against God. There are times, however, that this connection is close to being severed. Tertullian does make a seemingly sound connection between literal adultery and idolatry as well as murder. This connection is easily seen in that when you turn your eyes from God, you are liable to make your desires your idol. Then your Lust is satisfied with adultery, and then that adultery is forced to be kept silent by murder.

Chap. IV. – Adultery and Fornication Synonymous.

Having defined the distinction (between the kinds) of repentance[1], we are by this time, then, able to return to the assessment of the sins – whether they be such as can obtain pardon at the hand of men[2]. In the first place, (as for the fact) that we call adultery likewise fornication, usage requires (us so to do). “Faith,” withal, has a familiar acquaintance with sundry appellations. So, in every one of our little works, we carefully guard usage[3]. Besides, if I shall say “adulterium,” and if “stuprum,” the indictment of contamination of the flesh will be one and the same. For it makes no difference whether a man assault another’s bride or widow, provided it be not his own “female;” just as there is no difference made by places – whether it be in chambers or in towers that modesty is massacred. Every homicide, even outside a wood, is banditry. So, too, whoever enjoys any other than nuptial intercourse, in whatever place, and in the person of whatever woman, makes himself guilty of adultery and fornication. Accordingly, among us, secret connections as well – connections, that is, not first professed in presence of the Church – run risk of being judged akin to adultery and fornication; nor must we let them, if thereafter woven together by the covering of marriage, elude the charge. But all the other frenzies of passions – impious both toward the bodies and toward the sexes – beyond the laws of nature, we banish not only from the threshold, but from all shelter of the Church, because they are not sins, but monstrosities[4].

Chap. V. – Of the Prohibition of Adultery in the Decalogue.

Of how deep guilt, then, adultery – which is likewise a matter of fornication, in accordance with its criminal function – is to be accounted, the Law of God first comes to hand to show us; if it is true, (as it is), that after interdicting the superstitious service of alien gods, and the making of idols themselves, after commending (to religious observance) the veneration of the Sabbath, after commanding a religious regard toward parents second (only to that) toward God, (that Law) laid, as the next substratum in strengthening and fortifying such counts, no other precept than “Thou shall not commit adultery.” For after spiritual chastity and sanctity followed corporeal integrity[5]. And this (the Law) accordingly fortified, by immediately prohibiting its foe, adultery. Understand, consequently, what kind of sin (that must be), the repression of which (the Law) ordained next to (that of) idolatry. Nothing that is a second is remote from the first; nothing is so close to the first as 78 the second. That which results from the first is (in a sense) another first. And so adultery is bordering on idolatry[6]. For idolatry withal, often cast as a reproach upon the People under the name of adultery and fornication, will be alike conjoined therewith in fate as in following – will be alike co-heir therewith in condemnation as in co-ordination. Yet further: premising “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” (the Law) adjoins, “Thou shalt not kill.” It honoured adultery, of course, to which it gives the precedence over murder, in the very fore-front of the most holy law, among the primary counts of the celestial edict, marking it with the inscription of the very principal sins. From its place you may discern the measure, from its rank the station, from its neighbourhood the merit, of each thing. Even evil has a dignity, consisting in being stationed at the summit, or else in the centre, of the superlatively bad. I behold a certain pomp and circumstance of adultery: on the one side, Idolatry goes before and leads the way; on the other, Murder follows in company. Worthily, without doubt, has she taken her seat between the two most conspicuous eminences of misdeeds, and has completely filled the vacant space, as it were, in their midst, with an equal majesty of crime. Enclosed by such flanks, encircled and supported by such ribs, who shall dislocate her from the corporate mass of coherencies, from the bond of neighbour crimes, from the embrace of kindred wickednesses, so as to set apart her alone for the enjoyment of repentance? Will not on one side Idolatry, on the other Murder, detain her, and (if they have any voice) reclaim: “This is our wedge, this our compacting power?[7] By (the standard of) Idolatry we are measured; by her disjunctive intervention we are conjoined; to her, outjutting from our midst, we are united; the Divine Scripture has made us concorporate; the very letters are our glue; herself can no longer exist without us. ‘Many and many a time do I, Idolatry, subminister occasion to Adultery; witness my groves and my mounts, and the living waters, and the very temples in cities, what mighty agents we are for overthrowing modesty.’ ‘I also, Murder, sometimes exert myself on behalf of Adultery. To omit tragedies, witness nowadays the poisoners, witness the magicians, how many seductions I avenge, how many rivalries I revenge; how many guards, how many informers, how many accomplices, I make away with. Witness the midwives likewise, how many adulterous conceptions are slaughtered.’ Even among Christians there is no adultery without us. Wherever the business of the unclean spirit is, there are idolatries; wherever a man, by being polluted, is slain, there too is murder[8]. Therefore the remedial aids of repentance will not be suitable to them[9], or else they will likewise be to us. We either detain Adultery, or else follow her.” These words the sins themselves do speak. If the sins are deficient in speech, hard by (the door of the church) stands an idolater, hard by stands a murderer; in their midst stands, too, an adulterer. Alike, as the duty of repentance bids, they sit in sackcloth and bristle in ashes; with the self-same weeping they groan; with the selfsame prayers they make their circuits; with the self-same knees they supplicate; the self-same mother[10] they invoke. What doest thou, gentlest and humanest Discipline? Either to all these will it be thy duty so to be, for “blessed are the peacemakers;” or else, if not to all, it will be thy duty to range thyself on our side. Dost thou once for all condemn the idolater and the murderer, but take the adulterer out from their midst? – (the adulterer), the successor of the idolater, the predecessor of the murderer, the colleague of each? It is “an accepting of person:” the more pitiable repentances thou hast left (unpitied) behind!


[1] With pardon and without pardon – from God and before Man.

[2] Tertullian is forceful in his thought that repentance can only be gained from God, which seems opposed to the understanding of Roman methods of pardoning.

[3] Tertullian would find it difficult then, in this modern world, where usage is based on the need, as opposed to traditional understanding.

[4] I would find it difficult to disagree with the separation of sins based on the place (literal or figuratively) where they occur. Tertullian’s opponents perhaps fought to separate the sins based on the place of their execution. The only difference in the New Testament is the sin of death. If rejection of God occurs outside the Church, then it may be forgiven, but apostasy by a Christian is not.

[5] Marriage between a man and a woman is a true symbol of the relationship between Christ and His Church – one of the many allusions in the physical of the spiritual.

[6] Tertullian makes a valid point – God’s ordering of the Commandments was not by chance, but choice.

[7] Idolatry in worshipping oneself or another, adultery in fulfilling that idolatrous desire, and murder that is required to keep it hid.

[8] This is well remembered when we look at human institutions as tools of God or as ‘Christian’.

[9] I assume that Tertullian is speaking about those in the Church who would commit such sins, and in seen in the light of Hosea, then spiritual adulterers.

[10] Hardly Mary here, but the Church.

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Oct 02 2008

Guilt and Grief

Category: DevotionalPolycarp @ 3:52 pm

I work in the Coal Industry, in the safety aspect of it, and I have seen instances of those in a position of authority who through inaction or misaction cause the death of someone, even several someones. The grief that they experience will generally lead them to suicide. Somewhere along the way, they cannot find the ability to seek forgiveness from either those that they harm, themselves, or even from God. I think about the women who have abortions, and the trauma that their body goes through, incomparable to the trauma of their mind and heart.

What of the sinner? Or the Christian who sins and instead of turning to God, continues to live unforgived because he deems himself unforgivable.

In the story below, we read of a police officer who committed a grave error – if the taking of a human life can be called an error – and forgetting that their may be forgiveness, decided to end his own life.

In college, I had a Religion and Sociology class. The topic of sin came up – specifically whether sin was instinct or results of community pressure (figuratively). The conversation soon centered around the idea that humanity had no instincts instilled in it, but adapted to life as each individual progressed. One of my fellow students spoke up saying that we have the instinct of survival. The professor countered with suicide. The student countered with the idea that too many times, the person who contemplates suicide (and/or goes through with it), is under so much pressure that the only avenue of survival is take his or her own life in hopes that the pain that is so often associated with life will cease.

Fortunately for us, we have a hope that is stronger than any sin we may have committed before salvation. Our Hope is in the redeeming Cross of Christ and His faithfulness in obedience. We must continue to pray and to seek out those that are hurting, forgetting not that the love of Christ is timeless and often times, just in time.

Police Lieutenant in Taser Case Commits Suicide – NYTimes.com.

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Aug 28 2008

Exodus Launches Initiative to Help Women Affected by Lesbianism

Category: HomosexualityPolycarp @ 12:39 pm

Exodus Launches Initiative to Help Women Affected by Lesbianism.

This is along the same lines as the last post.

The global organization that promotes the message of “freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ” launched a new ministry this week to specifically cater to women struggling with unwanted same-sex attraction.

Wed, Aug. 27, 2008 Posted: 05:02 PM EDT

The global organization that promotes the message of “freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ” launched a new ministry this week to specifically cater to women struggling with unwanted same-sex attraction.

Exodus International has seen more men than women seek help, causing concern among ministry leaders who feel women weren’t getting the specific attention they needed. Approximately 60 percent of the people who have sought help at Exodus have been men and the rest, women.

Studies in recent years have shown that nationally, the prevalence of homosexuality is smaller among women than men.

“A concern that we’ve had for many years is that because more men come to us for help, women have had a tendency to get lost in the leftovers of our ministry,” Alan Chambers, president of Exodus International, told The Christian Post. “We are launching this ministry because we want to offer intentional, specific help that meets the needs of women affected by unwanted homosexuality.”

According to Chambers, women have a difficult time talking about their struggles or making themselves vulnerable when receiving help for their unwanted same-sex attractions. Although they tend to have a “much easier time” leaving the physical side of homosexuality than men do and often have more long-term success, women struggle with emotional entanglements, negative body images, ravages of sexual abuse, gender identity issues and feelings of inferiority and intimidation towards other women – all of which require a more specialized approach, Chambers said.

Chambers explained that Exodus has wanted to launch a women’s ministry for years as more women have requested specific help, but the international organization did not have the resources or personnel to meet the need.

Now with both, Exodus has launched an initiative that is being led by Yvette Schneider, a former policy analyst for Family Research Council and a former lesbian. Schneider, who has been out of the lesbian lifestyle since 1992 after giving her life to Jesus Christ, has worked with several ministries to help women affected by lesbianism.

“The Christian church must be a place that powerfully conveys compassionate truth to hurting women,” said Schneider in a statement. “My goal is to help more women find real hope and help as they journey towards wholeness in their femininity in Christ and to equip others to do the same.”

In her new role, Schneider plans to communicate biblical, compassionate truth to women, provide practical help and resources for women dealing with gender confusion, speak at women’s conferences and help other organizations better meet the needs of women affected by lesbianism.

While Exodus has been helping women for over 32 years, the newly launched women’s ministry will serve in ways that better meet gender-specific needs.

Lillian Kwon
Christian Post Reporter

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Aug 28 2008

Baptist Press – No longer lesbian

Category: Homosexuality, Religious NewsPolycarp @ 12:37 pm

Baptist Press – No longer lesbian – News with a Christian Perspective.

I post this article for a few reasons, first, to simply test what I believe about the ability for a homosexual to change. I understand that there are homosexuals who are led into that lifestyle either by a lack of morality at home, or by the situations describe in the below article. I am not sure – yes, please disagree with me – that those that willingly and joyfully take up homosexuality – which is more and more prevalent in today’s society – can ever be changed and thus forgiven. Paul speaks of these people as being reprobate (Romans 1). I believe that the blood of Christ has purchased a Church that welcoming to all those sinners who have come clean through baptism, but to what level do ‘eager’ homosexuals have the ability to come clean?

Please use this as a point of discussion.

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Jul 16 2008

The Love of the Apostle Paul

Category: DevotionalPolycarp @ 11:29 am

And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross.
(Mar 15:21)

And they drew Alexander out of the multitude, the Jews putting him forward. And Alexander beckoned with the hand, and would have made his defence unto the people.
(Act 19:33)

Salute Rufus chosen in the Lord, and his mother and mine.
(Rom 16:13) (above taken from KJV)

I have many times wondered about Simon the Cyrenian, and what the single act of helping to bear the cross of Christ must have done to him, emotionally, physically, and spiritually. What of his family? Simon was a devout Jew, we can speculate, because he was in attendance at Passover in Jerusalem, some 800 miles away from his homeland. (800 miles for worship service? How many grumble at 50 miles, and with a car?) And he survive in the Christian community because Mark (who according to Tradition – from Papias – wrote what Peter preached) knew enough of him to make special mention, unlike the others who grace the pages of the Gospels, of his two children. Two children in that day was not normal, so we can further speculate that these two children, out of 5, 6 maybe 8, made mention because they were important to the early Church.

We know that Alexander, Rufus, and their mother had an impact on the life of the Apostle Paul. Further we know that the Apostle Paul made an impact on the life of Mark, the gospel writer. It would be guess that this family from Simon who bore the cross of Christ for a short time,  became Christians and further were missionaries of some sort because the next we see them mentioned in Rome.

However, in Paul’s first letter to Timothy, we read of a final instance of Alexander in Paul’s life, where Paul said,

Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
(1Ti 1:20 KJVA)

We know that Paul contrary to a modern approach to him by scholars of various sorts, was not a heartless and cruel man, but one of deep compassion and conviction in helping his fellow Christian. In one of the most moving and powerful of Paul’s pastoral statements, he lists a series of persecutions against him, and then he says that above all these things, his care is still for the Church.

Are they Hebrews? So am I. Are they Israelites? So am I. Are they descendants of Abraham? So am I. Are they servants of Christ? (I am talking like I am out of my mind!) I am even more so: with much greater labors, with far more imprisonments, with more severe beatings, facing death many times. Five times I received from the Jews forty lashes less one. Three times I was beaten with a rod. Once I received a stoning. Three times I suffered shipwreck. A night and a day I spent adrift in the open sea. I have been on journeys many times, in dangers from rivers, in dangers from robbers, in dangers from my own countrymen, in dangers from Gentiles, in dangers in the city, in dangers in the wilderness, in dangers at sea, in dangers from false brothers, in hard work and toil, through many sleepless nights, in hunger and thirst, many times without food, in cold and without enough clothing. Apart from other things, there is the daily pressure on me of my anxious concern for all the churches. Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is led into sin, and I do not burn with indignation? If I must boast, I will boast about the things that show my weakness.
(2Co 11:22-30 NET)

Yet, it is the same Paul who wrote this that had to let Alexander go. Alexander, the son of the man who took Simon Peter’s promised place of never deserting Christ, who was the son of a woman who had become like Paul’s mother, and the brother of a man that Paul had called chosen in the Lord. It was this Alexander that once was persecuted by the Jews and would have given a defense had the assembly not been stopped. He followed the Apostles enough to be recognized by Luke and Mark, but yet, something happened where he had to be released.

Paul says that he turn him and his friend over to the adversary so that they would learn not to speak evil things. Who knows what the actual offense was, but we do know that Paul many times would seek to correct a congregation, so it is fair to say that Alexander had had his chances as well. Perhaps Paul had personally counseled him, prayed with him and for him, or made intercession so deeply into the night, as Paul was apt to do. But in the end, Paul had to let Alexander go so that the adversary could have his way with him, hoping that someone would learn to stay in God’s way.

I cannot imagine the pain that Paul would have had, for it was not merely Paul that was affected. Can you imagine, if you will give me just one moment, the weary Apostle standing in the door way of some home in ancient Rome, not wanting to come in, although the family had welcomed him in with open arms so many times before. As a matter of fact, the woman of the house had become Paul’s mother in the Lord, long after his own mother perhaps had passed or excommunicated him because of his Christian faith. As Paul walks in and sees the family that had ministered to him in his many times of need, the only thing that he can offer in return is to say that the older soon had been abandoned by the Church. Here, the wife of a husband who had touched the blood of Christ, who had so many years before met the Saviour one one one, and whose children she had attempted to raise in the Church, now, the aged Apostle had abandoned him to the adversary.

As a mother, it would have been difficult, I imagine to accept, but sometimes, things like this need to be done. I return again, on this blog, to memories of my grandfather. He and my grandmother had adopted my mother and given them the home that I hope to give my own children, but in the end, she rebelled against them and her upbringing becoming someone foreign to them. They still very much loved her. When my grandmother passed, it was left to my grandfather to rescue my mother from time to time. On one particular dead end, my grandfather showed up and pulled my mother, my sister and myself away from the deep cesspool that she had led us into. He could have easily forgotten her, but instead, he chose to love her and to still care for her. He brought us to Mississippi (from Baton Rouge, Louisiana) and provided us a place in order that my mother would get back on her feet.

She maintained her ties to the life style that he had sought to rescue her from, and in was in no time that she and my mother moved back to Louisiana (I chose to stay). He could do no more for her, because no matter how many times he tried, she still sunk back into the depths. I asked him how he managed to go on. He would, he said, simply give it to the Lord. I know that it still weighed on him, and in the closing of his life, he started to cease the rescue attempts, in hopes that she would pick herself up. There were times that she would call for help, but he could not give it because he had given her so much as it were. It took love to give and love to withhold.

It took love for Paul to give up Alexander, when he was doing his best to hold the Church together and to preach salvation to the entire world. It was love that Paul had for Alexander. I can imagine that Paul had sleepless nights over Alexander; scriptures do not tell us that Alexander ever came back to the fold. We will know one day, however, when we see Paul and those that he loved.

We have to continue to pray for those that need tough love, but in the end, no one can right a person who does not want it.

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Mar 18 2008

Christ centered affirmations for overcoming

Category: False ProphetsPolycarp @ 5:53 pm

Or something like that…. was what brought one viewer to my blog. So, let me go ahead and answer that.

Try what the publican did…Lord, I am a sinner. Or what Paul did, when he died daily.

What more joyous thought is there but to daily say, ‘Lord, I am a sinner! Forgive even me!’ What more exhilerating feeling then to be forgiven every day!

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