Oct 03 2009

Get the Liberal Stuff out of our Bible!

Category: Religion and PoliticsPolycarp @ 11:52 pm

The fine and esteemed biblioblogger, Professor James McGrath, notes,

So on to the news, reported by both Ann Fontaine and Deirdre Good, that there is a Conservative Bible Project underway to “translate” the Bible in a more conservative way that will prevent liberal “misinterpretations” or “misconstruals”. Or, to put it another way, the plan is to replace what the text says, which is open to other interpretations than their own, with a rendering that will say what they think the text means and really ought to have said. These “translators”, if they are serious, are exalting themselves above the Bible and, from the perspective of conservative Christianity, above God. How that shores up a conservative understanding of the Bible is hard to fathom.

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Sep 05 2009

For Piper is way, way, way, way off

Category: ESV, NIV, TNIVPolycarp @ 8:26 pm

I am a novice at bible translation, but even I know that a ‘literal translation’ is not exactly literal. I wonder if the ESV uses all the ‘O’s’ in the text? Or the ‘the’s’ as in ‘the God, the Christ’ when it is rarely translated in our English bibles.

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Sep 04 2009

Friday's Question of the Day: What do you think of Gender Inclusive Language

Category: Bible Translation, Debate/DiscussionPolycarp @ 7:59 am

The NIV and the TNIV is about to go the way of the dodo and the KJV-1611. As many will recall, the TNIV has born the brunt of the Evangelical attacks because of the gender inclusive language which it employed.

Fine. Cool. Whatever.

But, in the end the TNIV wasn’t all that bad, as we can actually find the use of gender inclusive language dating to the KJV. Yes, the King James Version used gender inclusive language. Bunch of liberals.

So, what do you think – must biblical translations ONLY use ’sons’ if both men and women are meant (or do you think that only males will be saved?)? Or, do you think that a moderate level of gender inclusiveness can be employed? Do you think we should shuck the entire concept and just use ‘it’ and ‘them’, etc…?

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Jul 05 2009

Are Calvinists turning into ESV-Onlies?

Category: ESVPolycarp @ 1:30 am

I know of a few Calvinists, Reformed they call themselves, who use and teach the English Standard Version like many use the KJV. This blogger tells us of an attack against the NIV, the TNIV and the NLT by Ligonier Ministries:

The whole point of this so-called talk was subtle and dishonest attacks against the NIV, TNIV and the NLT. It was suggested that these translations are just about money and they are a “war on the word of God”. In the end, this whole things leads to a pied-pipering to the English Standard Version. All I have to say is bye, bye Ligonier Ministries, RC Sproul, and Renewing Your Mind. My time is short and there’s better things to listen too that don’t waste my time and fill me with dishonest rhetoric.

Frankly, I like the NLT. It lacks the dry committee feel of the ESV, and of course, there are other problems with it (see here.) I like the style of it, and indeed, sometimes I like the NIV. (Of course, I generally like to study the originals). The ESV is purposely translated to appeal to the Reformed. Fine. But as the author above said, dishonest rhetoric is not needed at this time.

I am not saying give up your ESV’s. Keep them. Read them. Enjoy them. Just leave the onlyist arguments to the kind folks who defend the KJV.

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Sep 30 2008

Zondervan Launches Bible Across America Tour, Invites 31,173 Americans to Handwrite NIV Bible

Category: Bible Translation, KJV, Religious NewsPolycarp @ 7:08 pm

How cool is this? Of course, I don’t think I have hand written anything in years…

Zondervan Launches Bible Across America Tour, Invites 31,173 Americans to Handwrite NIV Bible – MarketWatch.

Zondervan Launches Bible Across America Tour, Invites 31,173 Americans to Handwrite NIV Bible

RV Tour & Writing Stations to Hit 90 Cities, 44 States to Celebrate NIV 30th Anniversary

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich., Sept 30, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ — More than 31,000 Americans will have a hand in publishing a new NIV Bible — America’s NIV — the first NIV Bible ever written “one-verse, one-person” at a time.

Zondervan, the world’s leading Bible publisher, is embarking Sept. 30, 2008 on a 90-city, 44-state cross-country tour — Bible Across America — to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the New International Version (NIV) translation, enlisting the help of the American people to publish its next Bible. A team of four will drive a 42-foot luxury motorhome, generously donated by RV supplier Spartan Motors, more than 15,000-miles, criss-crossing the United States over the next five months.

The Bible Across America tour will make scheduled stops at events, churches, universities, retail stores, American landmarks and other venues to allow people of all ages and walks of life to write a verse in the Bible, which will then be published and sold nationwide. The tour kicks off at Zondervan headquarters in Grand Rapids, Mich. and includes stops ranging from a NASCAR race in Charlotte, N.C. to a young church leaders conference in Atlanta to the National Pastor’s Convention in San Diego, as well as signing events in the heart of New York City and for legislators at the Capitol in Washington D.C. (Tour stops and real-time blog updates: www.BibleAcrossAmerica.com)

“The Bible is America’s favorite book of all time. And because of its accuracy, clarity and literary quality, the NIV has become the most successful Bible translation of all time. We believe that a completely handwritten version of the NIV Bible by people from all across our country will help America rediscover the Bible in a fresh, new way,” said Moe Girkins, president and CEO of Zondervan. “The Bible Across America is a symbol of Zondervan’s commitment to make the Word of God more accessible and more relevant to more people. We couldn’t think of a better way to commemorate the 30th Anniversary of the NIV Bible than by inviting Americans to join us on this monumental tour and open more hearts to the Word of God.”

The NIV complete Bible was released in 1978, and since that time has become the most trusted, most widely read contemporary Bible translation today. With more than 300 million copies in print worldwide, more people use an NIV Bible than any other English-language translation. The NIV was commissioned by the International Bible Society, which owns the copyright and is a long time partner of Zondervan, and was translated by a team of more than 100 scholars.

Writers of America’s NIV will pen a single verse on actual thin-stock Bible paper. Each verse and each page will be published together as a complete America’s NIV Bible available in stores nationwide. The Bible will include an unprecedented index of 31,173 contributors, one for every verse of the Bible. Zondervan plans to create two original editions. One original transcript of America’s NIV will be offered to the Smithsonian Institution and the second will be auctioned off to benefit the International Bible Society in support of their Bible translation and distribution efforts around the world.

“When the International Bible Society first agreed to sponsor the translation of the New International Version, I don’t believe anyone could foresee the embrace and universal acceptance that the translation would receive,” said Keith Danby, CEO of IBS-STL Global. “The NIV translation has made the word of God more accessible and understandable, while maintaining the integrity of the original texts and it has impacted the hearts of countless people worldwide in just three decades.”

To find an event nearest you, or to suggest a “rolling stop” in your town, please visit www.BibleAcrossAmerica.com and leave the team a message.

Sponsors of the Bible Across America Tour include:

– International Bible Society: one of the largest Bible and Christian literature ministries worldwide, translating the Bible into languages of 1 million or more speakers and distributing Christian resources to engage people with the life-transforming message of Jesus Christ. It is the translation sponsor and copyright holder of the NIV.

About the NIV Translation

The NIV is one of the most distinctive Bible translations. In 1978, following 10 years of intensive translation work, a multi-denominational group of more than 100 scholars from five English-speaking countries, and financed by the New York Bible Society (now IBS-STL Global) created the NIV, an all-new contemporary English translation of the Bible. The first printing of 1.2 million copies was released to consumers as one of the largest book printings in the history of publishing.

About Zondervan

Zondervan is the world’s leading Bible publisher. With a vision to see more people engaging the Bible more, Zondervan produces bestselling study, devotional, reference, text, audio, software, and digital Bibles designed to inspire readers at every age and stage of life. Zondervan holds exclusive North American publishing rights to the New International Version (NIV), which is celebrating its 30th anniversary in 2008. The NIV, the most popular modern English Bible translation, has more than 300 million copies in print worldwide. Over the past 75 years, Zondervan, a HarperCollins company, has grown to be a global leader in Christian communications through its bestselling Bibles, books, curriculum, children’s, and new media products. Visit Zondervan Bibles on the Internet at www.zondervan.com/Bibles

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Sep 08 2008

Baptist Pastor Comparing the NIV against the King James Bibl

Category: Bible Translation, KJVPolycarp @ 3:49 pm

Watch the video here

Then read the excellent commentary here:

Stoned-Campbell Disciple: Exhibit A – Baptist Pastor Comparing the NIV against the King James Bible.

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