First, go here. Of if not, watch the videos below
I have never head of Jason Upton before, and I doubt that I will listen to him again.
The first one is Michael Tyrrell’s account of the angel singing with Jason Upton
And it came to pass, when the priests came out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD, so that the priests could not continue ministering because of the cloud; for the glory of the LORD filled the house of the LORD. (1 Kings 8:10-11 NKJV)
So these guys where that holy? Or maybe it was the college auditorium in Alexandria, Louisiana.
Notice the 2 minute mark when Mike is describing Jason being ‘drunk’. Highs rolling back? Come on!
Sometime around the 5 minutes mark, there is a some feedback or reverb one that many consider some sort of angelic voice. I don’t know where they found that at in scripture – but then again, they don’t really need (or want) scripture to back themselves up.
Finally, notice that the original poster on the board listed a certain verse as her ‘warning’ to those of us who will laugh this stuff off.
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isa 5:20
Thanks to PJ for this, Singing Angel? « Sola Dei Gloria
#1 by juan on December 4, 2008 – 4:49 am
hey i’m trying to find out a song that was sang by jason but i dont know the title-
the song on youtube under “Jason Upton – Painting”
place if you know the title can you email me it thanks
#2 by juan on December 3, 2008 – 11:49 pm
hey i’m trying to find out a song that was sang by jason but i dont know the title-
the song on youtube under “Jason Upton – Painting”
place if you know the title can you email me it thanks
#3 by Polycarp on December 4, 2008 – 5:05 am
Juan, no offense, but perhaps if you read the article you can see that I know nothing about Jason, and desire not to.
#4 by Polycarp on December 4, 2008 – 12:05 am
Juan, no offense, but perhaps if you read the article you can see that I know nothing about Jason, and desire not to.
#5 by Robert on December 5, 2008 – 4:35 am
Polycarp,
I just came across this entry randomly and I found your comments interesting. I know Jason Upton personally, he was just at our church a couple months ago and I can attest that he is a man of God with a real heart for following Jesus. I have no problem with charitable criticism, but it is usually a good idea to know something about what you are criticizing, and you have already confessed to knowing nothing about Jason in that last comment.
Your response in general is really what bothers me more though. You quote the passage from 1 Kings. No one ever said they were “that holy.” The whole point of the New Covenant is the fact that we now have access to the Holy of Holies, the veil has been split in two, and we can have direct access to God unlike the people of the old covenant. As Scripture says, we are now a royal priesthood. So that passage from 1 Kings would actually support this experience Mike is talking about when understood in the light of the New Covenant- who we are now in Christ.
Furthermore, the Scripture is full of stories of angelic visitations in both the old and new testaments. A simple reading of the book of Acts makes this clear, and in every age since then there have been Christians who have testified to being visited by angels. So why is that hard to believe in this story? All it is is an account of an angelic visitation- something perfectly normal by biblical standards. If angels can talk and eat like portrayed in Scripture than I’m sure they can sing.
You also ridicule the experience of Jason being drunk in the Spirit. I would just point you to the story of Pentecost in Acts. The whole crowd thought those in the upper room were drunk. So clearly, the Holy Spirit can create the effect of drunkenness when He descends on someone. And this Pentecost experience was proclaimed by Peter as a direct fulfillment of the prophecy from Joel which declares that “I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy,your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.” How is this much different from Mike was talking about?
We all have individual experiences of the Lord’s presence, the test of whether it is an authentic experience is not if we can find a specific experience just like ours in Scripture, but whether it is consistent with the principles found in the Word of God.
Lastly, why would you say about fellow believers that they don’t “need or want Scripture to back them up” when you don’t know them? Especially when in this case they are backed up by Scripture? Jason Upton, just like anyone else can not be simply thrown into the generic group of “they” whoever “they” is. Instead of just automatically dismissing what others say that you disagree with, it may be a good idea to actually try to understand what they are saying and where they are coming from.
#6 by Robert on December 4, 2008 – 11:35 pm
Polycarp,
I just came across this entry randomly and I found your comments interesting. I know Jason Upton personally, he was just at our church a couple months ago and I can attest that he is a man of God with a real heart for following Jesus. I have no problem with charitable criticism, but it is usually a good idea to know something about what you are criticizing, and you have already confessed to knowing nothing about Jason in that last comment.
Your response in general is really what bothers me more though. You quote the passage from 1 Kings. No one ever said they were “that holy.” The whole point of the New Covenant is the fact that we now have access to the Holy of Holies, the veil has been split in two, and we can have direct access to God unlike the people of the old covenant. As Scripture says, we are now a royal priesthood. So that passage from 1 Kings would actually support this experience Mike is talking about when understood in the light of the New Covenant- who we are now in Christ.
Furthermore, the Scripture is full of stories of angelic visitations in both the old and new testaments. A simple reading of the book of Acts makes this clear, and in every age since then there have been Christians who have testified to being visited by angels. So why is that hard to believe in this story? All it is is an account of an angelic visitation- something perfectly normal by biblical standards. If angels can talk and eat like portrayed in Scripture than I’m sure they can sing.
You also ridicule the experience of Jason being drunk in the Spirit. I would just point you to the story of Pentecost in Acts. The whole crowd thought those in the upper room were drunk. So clearly, the Holy Spirit can create the effect of drunkenness when He descends on someone. And this Pentecost experience was proclaimed by Peter as a direct fulfillment of the prophecy from Joel which declares that “I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy,your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.” How is this much different from Mike was talking about?
We all have individual experiences of the Lord’s presence, the test of whether it is an authentic experience is not if we can find a specific experience just like ours in Scripture, but whether it is consistent with the principles found in the Word of God.
Lastly, why would you say about fellow believers that they don’t “need or want Scripture to back them up” when you don’t know them? Especially when in this case they are backed up by Scripture? Jason Upton, just like anyone else can not be simply thrown into the generic group of “they” whoever “they” is. Instead of just automatically dismissing what others say that you disagree with, it may be a good idea to actually try to understand what they are saying and where they are coming from.
#7 by Jordan Cannon on May 27, 2009 – 11:20 pm
Well its sad that you doubt the spirit of the lord working through someone. The Bible says not to judge so how can you say he has no connection with the divine authority of God if you have never heard him. Jason Upton’s ministry is one of the most powerful and spiritually connected group that is filled with intercessors. One last fact the Bible says pluck out thine own eye before yo pluck out anothers.
#8 by Blessedbymyfather on October 5, 2010 – 8:28 am
i bible commands us to judge in multiple places, you judge who play with your children. I just dont agree that this wasnt a angel, i believe it was. The peace of God on you
#9 by Joel on October 5, 2010 – 11:27 am
You can believe it was an angel, but I suspect you would be quite wrong.
#10 by Jordan Cannon on May 27, 2009 – 7:20 pm
Well its sad that you doubt the spirit of the lord working through someone. The Bible says not to judge so how can you say he has no connection with the divine authority of God if you have never heard him. Jason Upton’s ministry is one of the most powerful and spiritually connected group that is filled with intercessors. One last fact the Bible says pluck out thine own eye before yo pluck out anothers.
#11 by Polycarp on May 27, 2009 – 11:31 pm
Well, Jordon, it is evident that you have not read the bible. No one is doubting that God cannot work through someone – but Jason is not describing that. The Bible says not to judge the person, not never once says to ignore false doctrine or teachings. Quite the opposite actually.
Um, and that’s not exactly what the bible says either. Try again.
#12 by Julie on November 14, 2010 – 4:00 pm
One thing I do know, Mr. Polycarp, is that humility is not one of our spiritual gifts. What if this experience DID involve angels? What are you going to say to Jason when you get to heaven and meet him? (Notice I did not say “if”.) Are you Southern Baptist by any chance?
#13 by Joel on November 14, 2010 – 7:07 pm
No, I am not Southern Baptist, however, I do read the bible and study it. What Jason is describing is not biblical.
No one is ‘going to heaven’ by the way.
#14 by Julie on November 14, 2010 – 10:43 pm
What do you mean by “no one is going to heaven.”
#15 by Joel on November 14, 2010 – 11:06 pm
What I mean is, is that the phrase which we commonly use to denote the reward of a good life led here is not biblical either, and doesn’t begin to scratch the surface of what really awaits all of Creation when we die.
#16 by Julie on November 15, 2010 – 12:11 am
Are you Jehovah’s Witness?
#17 by Joel on November 15, 2010 – 6:55 am
No, just one who can read the bible
#18 by Polycarp on May 27, 2009 – 7:31 pm
Well, Jordon, it is evident that you have not read the bible. No one is doubting that God cannot work through someone – but Jason is not describing that. The Bible says not to judge the person, not never once says to ignore false doctrine or teachings. Quite the opposite actually.
Um, and that’s not exactly what the bible says either. Try again.