More on Phillip R. Greaves II


Phillip R. Greaves, 2nd. is a rogue scholar with respect to the topics of religion, sexuality and politics. “The Grand Book Of The Godless And Free,” is a collection of essays regarding these general subjects with titles exploring the nature of “God” to parenthood for single-gender families. This is a contraversial volume presenting the often unique views of the author. Thus far, everyone who has read this work has been impressed by its wit and depth. Ray (as he is more commonly known) began his path to knowledge and enlightenment at the ripe old age of ten. When he left the Baptist tradition in which he had been raised and sought-out a new faith beginning with his studies at the local library. He was already familar with sex by the age of seven. Soon he met a varity of people from foreign lands and cultures, from whom he acquired much additional knowledge. Later he joined the Christian cult of the Way Ministry, followed by his joining the Baha’i Faith at the age of eighteen. Next, Ray joined the U.S. Army. Eight years later he embraced the view of rational disbelief, which he is happy to share and discuss with the world. Mr. Greaves is an admirer of Aristotle and Ayn Rand’s Objectivism.

I would imagine that ‘Ray’ wrote this himself.

 

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  1. #1 by Lucy Ponzio on November 10, 2010 – 7:50 pm

    Absolute scum.

  2. #2 by LIsa on November 10, 2010 – 8:18 pm

    Figures you’re part of a church! Pedophile asshole. I can’t believe you’d write a book for pedophiles to molest easier! WTH is wrong with you?!!!!

    • #3 by Joel on November 10, 2010 – 8:35 pm

      Actually, Lisa, he is not part of any church. He has embraced ‘rational disbelief’ whatever that is. he notes that he actually left the church when he was young

  3. #4 by Anonomous on November 10, 2010 – 8:54 pm

    It doesn’ matter if he were a part of the church or not he is a sick pervert who should not have written this book he is a disgrace to the Greaves family name and the day he dies he should burn in hell.

    • #5 by Joel on November 10, 2010 – 8:59 pm

      I don’t usually say that about anyone anymore, but you know, I agree.

      • #6 by Paul on November 11, 2010 – 8:56 am

        Very ‘Christian’ of you Joel… Perhaps if ‘Ray’ experienced more understanding in his dealing with ‘Christians’ he would not have gone down the path he has chosen… I don’t blame you or any of your fellow Christians finding the work disturbing… I am coming from a background of dealing with disturbed minds… I can tell you that childhood experiences play a huge part in the eventual outcome… and for the outraged Mom below.. God loves everyone… Not just the ones that think they are doing what he wants… Go well

        • #7 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 9:34 am

          Paul, I hope that no Christian will ever ‘understand’ the need for another to rape a child.

          • #8 by kate on November 15, 2010 – 12:17 pm

            do you really believe that God will never turn His back on anyone eventually? At a certain point surely He must accept that some people will never be redeemed and wish His hands of them. I can’t imagine there is much in Ray that would promot any hope in any parent.

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          • #9 by Joel on November 15, 2010 – 12:22 pm

            Kate, that is generally a believe in the universalism espoused by Judaism, early Christianity, and today’s Islamic world.

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  4. #10 by outraged mom on November 11, 2010 – 2:16 am

    SICK. GOD DOES NOT LOVE PEDOPHILES SATAN DOES!

  5. #11 by Anonomous on November 11, 2010 – 3:40 am

    Try looking up his fathers book -On God And Country- its very hard to find any more but I bet that e is rolling in his grave! Phillip Ray Greaves was a very honorable man and his son Ray is scum.

    • #12 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 7:24 am

      Anonomous, thank you for sharing that bit.

  6. #13 by Rod on November 11, 2010 – 7:43 am

    Ayn Rand and Aristotle. No kidding!

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    • #14 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 8:35 am

      Yeah…. I didn’t want to say anything about Ayn Rand…. because I would have to then say something about Aristotle.

  7. #15 by Laurie on November 11, 2010 – 8:04 am

    I think anyone who bought this book should have their IP address and credit card information sent to the FBI. As a survivor, this disgusts me. With free speech comes responsibility. This isn’t even free speech covered under our rights because it is illegal to promote illegal activity. As for “they can’t help it”. They can. If a normal adult can choose abstinence, so can they if that is really a mental issue. Aristotle was a boy lover himself, so it isn’t surprising the author lists him as a source of inspiration.The only difference is that Greek society accepted it. I hope it NEVER comes to that here. Religion shouldn’t matter. All of us need to stand against this insanity.

    • #16 by Allison on November 11, 2010 – 9:40 am

      I agree wholeheartedly!

  8. #17 by Allison on November 11, 2010 – 9:40 am

    This man is clearly the devil himself. Nothing more can be said. Don’t glorify this evil man any longer.

  9. #18 by Jeff on November 11, 2010 – 11:14 am

    I am more than confused. Please note that I am not advocating the book or the behavior however, how come there are so many sites on the web promoting the same thing? Why is there nor has there been a moral outcry against these sites? For example, in a simple search I found STORIES.XNXX.COM One of their tags are “young” in which they have stories of adults and kids. Another part of the search in which was based on “3D” and “incest” has over 60 sites of computer generated pictures of adults and kids.

    Before you blast me, I am a professor at a state based university. Over lunch with many other faculty members, one of the psychology professors who specialized in family therapy and human sexuality was talking about this subject. We as a group pulled out a computer and did the search. Do it yourself if you don’t believe me.

    Help me understand. Please!

    • #19 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 12:25 pm

      No, Jeff, I completely agree – however, there are child porn rings as well. Would we be offended if we saw something like a coffee-table book of child porn on Amazon? I think it behooves us as a society to find things such as what you note and have them pulled down. This book, however, is not a mere story, but has a goal to creating a ‘safe’ space for pedophiles to abuse their victims… in real life. Further, Amazon is making money off of it, and so was his guy who was intent on paving a path for ‘pedosexuals’ as he calls it. Look at it this way – it was a real attempt to making pedophilia a mainstream acceptable behavior.

  10. #20 by curious on November 11, 2010 – 11:56 am

    con someone explain the difference between publishing a guide book describing how to rape children and not get caught, and publishing a book on how to assemble and detonate a car bomb?

  11. #22 by sarah on November 11, 2010 – 11:57 am

    People, this a sickness, a mental one at that, he should be helped not alienated. Thats whats wrong with this country, people are so quick to write people off and to lock them off. They should be embraced and helped… and if its a lost cause after that, the shoot the guy in the f*****g head. whats this going to do, ranting on facebook? absolutely nothing, if you really wanted to make a statement get off facebook and take care of society yourself. “….

    put this on facebook, get a life.

    • #23 by WeAreThey on November 11, 2010 – 9:04 am

      The problem with this country is the desensitization that has occurred. Sympathizers to adults whom stalk young children and sexually molest and rape them are proof. Perhaps books should be written to help these sick people understand it is WRONG TO SEXUALLY DEVOUR A CHILD. And yes Sarah, they become locked up… because it is against the law. If you’ve ever had a small child who was raped by some creepy older man (or woman) then perhaps you’d sing a different tune.

    • #24 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 12:16 pm

      Wow, Sarah.

      So, what you’re really saying is that someone who says ‘it’s okay to rape a child’ should be given the room to express himself? That makes you just as sick as he is.

  12. #25 by Natas on November 11, 2010 – 3:24 pm

    If I ever see this guy in public or if he’s doing a book signing I’m going to blow his face off with a shotgun.

    • #26 by Joel on November 11, 2010 – 4:28 pm

      Natas, statements like that are as bad as what he is doing. Okay, not as bad, but still, I wouldn’t say that in public

  13. #27 by Matt on November 11, 2010 – 4:08 pm

    I’m thinking of publishing a book…I want to know what you guys think of the title: “How to Stalk, Torture and Castrate Phillip R. Greaves II: A Parent’s Guide”….What do you think?

    • #28 by jen on November 12, 2010 – 11:16 am

      perfect idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. #29 by Peyton on November 11, 2010 – 5:05 pm

    what this man has done is morally repulsive. he is indeed advocating criminal acts and advising criminals. the book should never have been published. what the government should do is investigate this sick man. that being said, he is sick. now i am by no means condoning this man’s behavior, but i am saying, like any other citizen with a mental disease or disturbance, he needed professional help. i have no pity for this man who has probably followed his own principles of child loving, but i do in fact pity the brilliant side of him: that genius that once blossomed in the scholar but sadly was distorted by this atrocity. that is the side i wish i could help, but sadly it isn’t possible. so what do you do? give him the same clemency as other criminals that plead insanity? or put him in a 12 by 12 cell with a man who will show him what it feels like to be sexually violated?

  15. #30 by Piledriver on November 11, 2010 – 6:48 pm

    From the sound of that “bio” I think I came across this guy before, some years ago when he had a website up on the same subject(s) and was advertising it all over usenet. If this is the same guy, he was very impressed with his imagined intellect and believed that his own mind was the font of all wisdom (I am only paraphrasing slightly), though I don’t recall him specifically claiming to be a Randian at the time.

    Goes to show where that line of reasoning can lead…

  16. #31 by Munk on November 12, 2010 – 9:58 am

    I own a copy of Mein Kampf. It’s a disturbing book. I’m not racist, but I am a Sioux. I specialize in history of the Holocaust, Nazism, and U.S. military intervention of World War II. It’s amazing how a book like Hitler’s remains public almost everywhere in the world except for certain spots in Europe. Hitler’s book by far is ten times worse than Greaves’ book will ever be.

    There are thousands of controversial and taboo books out there. Americans typically denounce everything that affects their particular status quo of life.

    I have no desire to read this book, but I’m not going to judge the author. I’m not going to jump to conclusions UNLESS I READ THIS BOOK.

    The author just ruined his career for life.

  17. #32 by angela on November 12, 2010 – 11:02 am

    This is absolutely horrible. The people who published the book should be investigated also. HOW CAN ANYONE think this is okay????????

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