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Because Mark Stevens is mourning the loss of the TNIV
Posted by Joel in NIV, Other Posts on November 9, 2010
Which in my opinion couldn’t have died a sooner death… But, alas my friends, he is giving away a ‘reference’ edition…
So here are the rules:
- Post a link to the competition on your blog or facebook if you don’t have blog (If you don’t have either, I envy you).
- Leave a comment here letting me know that you’ve posted the link and which version you would prefer.
Okay, so that’s the boring stuff. Now its time to get creative. You can choose one or both of these tasks. If you don’t have a blog simply leave a comment and it will count as an entry. I had hoped to find a photo to which we could post likely captions but none where forthcoming.
- Come up with a marketing slogan for the now defunct TNIV – The funniest and smartest wins!
- Alternately you could come up with a fictitious quote of what you think Wayne Grudem, John Piper, Mark Driscoll etc might have said when they first heard the TNIV had been canned and then what they might have said when they first read the NIV 2011!
- Thirdly, any other funny post related to the TNIV!
TNIV Reference Bible/Study Bible Giveaway… |.
As we know, Wayne Grudem regularly featured the TNIV in the ‘You makee Feel Like A natural Woman’ series, in which he describes what a natural woman is. Piper couldn’t be reached for comment, but on his voicemail, it was a ‘noun, a verb, and ESV’. Driscoll, when asked about the TNIV, asked what edition of the Geneva it was.
Personally, I have the TNIV, had have had for a while, but the slogan never caught on. You know, ‘T is for tons more money because we changed a few words in the NIV.’
What Rodney gets wrong about me and the NLT
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I wonder if I could make that into a song ‘Me and the NLT’ – maybe sung to the tune of ‘Me and Bobby McGee’
Rodney has been wrong a lot lately, but I suspect that it has more to do with having the blinders of dissent on (which I plan on getting to later), than actual facts. He, and I am sure this is just an attempt at trying to be funny, insists that the NLT reader is,
Indicates that you have been a part of the Bible Wars for years and you are looking for a way to escape the King James Version only crowd. It means you still hold on to your embedded conservative theology but are desiring to engage other Christians outside of the KJVO faith.
What Your Bible Translation Tells Me about You | Political Jesus.
Several things are wrong with that statement, as it is usually is with what Rodney writes. First, I haven’t been a part of the ‘bible wars’ for years, and really, from what I can see from other NLT users, they haven’t either. I left the bible wars years ago when I first picked up the NKJV then the RSV then the, well, you get the picture. I really have no need to engage in bible wars, except to defend the right of the reader to choose a bible which suits them.
I have no ‘embedded conservative theology.’ I classify myself as theological conservative because I believe that all things pertaining to the life of a Christian, especially in the matters of theology and Christian growth, must be based on Scripture. There is simply no ‘well, it was a different time then’ with me. I believe that we take Scripture and find the right interpretative measures for it, such as what the original audience might have heard, the etymology of the passages, and as always, the original languages.
I might get to that last bit in a later post, since people have a difficult time constructing what makes one a liberal or a conservative, either politically or theologically, because they insist on being subjective. Subjectivity leads only to incomplete decisions and irrational statements. But, alas, I digress…
Do I use other translations? Sure. I use the RSV and will use the NRSV if I must. I prefer the NASB for more academic study if I cannot use the original Greek, and the NETS for reading/studying/citing the Septuagint. I like the NLT for reading, studying, devotionals, and conversational preaching. By far and away, the NLT is my bible of choice. It is also my family’s. Not because I have chosen it because others didn’t (think Rodney and the NRSV or his aversion to anything which seems liked), or that it is conservative (just ask the ESV-Only crowd), or that is a fashion statement (think Message, then forget about the Message and get yourself a real bible, like the NLT). I chose the NLT because it saved my bible reading, and I was able to share with others, in their language-speak, what the Gospel means.
On Adding to and/or Interpreting the text
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Mark Taylor, current chief at Tyndale House Publishers and son of the founder of the company, has a post up about the style of the NLT, sort of. Many simply assume that the Dynamic approach (of course, I use that word in several ways!) to translating (yes, translating, not paraphrasing an earlier edition of the Scriptures) the NLT is adding to the text.
In the comments section, a commentator points to Acts 2.38, from the 2004, edition, which was changed to reflect a certain view on baptism. This was an interpretation, which was repealed in the 2007 version. This is one of the strengths, in my opinion, of Tyndale and the NLT, that they are trying to improve their translation, and not build a cult following around a set-in-stone edition.
You can read the post here:
NLT Blog.
Also, you may note the fact that the NLT Blog will be renewing itself as a new edition (like the Mosaic, not a fourth revision) is prepared.
And, one more thing. Helen Adam Sabados is interviewed for the Tyndale Blog. Adam is a great guy, at least on Twitter, and sets a fine example of the employees at Tyndale, on Twitter. Although he is from Ohio, is not that bad of a guy, on Twitter.
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Perhaps the only Android App you will ever need
Posted by Joel in NLT, Technology on October 20, 2010
For those of you with an Android phone, I have created a first generation, 1.0, app for the NLT community. It contains links to the NLT Online, Interlinear, NLT Blog, Facebook Community (to the mobile site), and to the Tyndale House Blog. It is not in the market yet, but once I move to the 2.0, it should be. It is free and will be so, and locked to point to only official Tyndale/NLT pages. I hope to include, at some point, a link to the verse of the day via Twitter, as well as NLT/Tyndale House news. That will require me learning java source code, but sure, why not.
You will need a barcode scanner and a gmail account, or an email associated with Google.com. Scan the above and away you go. The app will be listed as NLT with the Android icon in your phone.
It is a labor of love as many of you know, I happen to like the NLT and Tyndale. I’ll update this whenever I get to the 2.0 level.
New NIV Text to be made Available Online – November 1
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Because this is a Press Release, I am posting all of it:
Biblica and Publishing Partners Zondervan and Hodder Announce Timing from
Lausanne Congress in South AfricaCape Town, South Africa – October 18, 2010 –Today, at the Third Lausanne Congress on World Evangelization, Keith Danby, CEO of Biblica, and Moe Girkins, CEO of Zondervan, announced that they have received the new update to the NIV from the Committee on Bible Translation. Although the print form will not be ready for release until next year, they have decided to make the text available to view it online at www.BibleGateway.com and www.Biblica.com beginning November 1.
“The NIV has become part of our culture – part of the shared experience of millions of people,” said Keith Danby, International CEO of Biblica. “This is the reason why we felt it was appropriate to make the update available online as soon as it was ready. We’re responding to the desires of scholars, pastors and Christians across the globe who are eager to experience the updated text.”
“We’re thrilled to be able to share the text with NIV readers around the world in this way,” said Moe Girkins, President and CEO of Zondervan. “The translation team has done an amazing job with the update and we’re excited to see people reading it and hearing God’s voice through it. It seemed especially fitting for us to share this news from the Lausanne Congress here in Cape Town because the shared purpose of this gathering, and of the NIV, is to reach more people with God’s Word.”
Zondervan serves as the North American publisher of the NIV Bible and plans to release the first wave of updated NIV products in March 2011. Hodder serves as the UK and European Union publisher of the NIV Bible. Biblica, as the worldwide publisher of the NIV, is the translation sponsor and copyright holder of the NIV and a global Bible and resource ministry.
Updated NIV Text Available for Online Viewing November 1 « NIV Bible Update.
Thanks to Keith via Twitter
What will 2012 herald? A New Bible From Tyndale, not the end of the world
On Friday, during a highly confidential conversation on Twitter which was just between Keith Williams, General Editor at Tyndale House Publishers; Christian, world renown blogger, New Monastic, and quite possibly the world’s most interesting man; and myself, a humble, humble, and I mean, just really humble guy… this bit of information was dropped for all the world to see:
Seriously, I am the most humblest guy I know. It’s not easy, but I manage somehow. I guess, if I had to answer the question of my most enduring trait, it would humility, because I am humble. I am more humble than you, trust me.
Now, as the Self-Appointed NLT-O Missionary, and humble guy, I am waiting to hear about this…
And frankly, having a new NLT (or edition of the NLT) out in 2012 makes having Sarah Palin as the next President of the United States almost bearable.
For the last time, the NLT is NOT a paraphrase
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In several of my church class books which are published by Abingdon (note to Tyndale, please connect Abingdon and set the record straight. Or. Else.), I noticed that they recommend several translations for use, but single out the Living Bible and The Message as paraphrases. True, those two are, but by not listing the New Living Translation as a translation, they seem to leave it categorized with the Living Bible. This quickly gets on my nerve, and the NLT-Hulk comes out in me and I want to smash…
This is a post by Keith Williams, General Editor of the NLT, and while it is from 2008, the problems persist…
One of the most common misconceptions about the NLT is that it is a paraphrase. It is not. The NLT is, in fact, a translation from Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic; it represents the work of nearly 100 scholars, specialists in the book(s) of Scripture to which they contributed…..
Read the rest here:
NLT Blog.
What is interesting is that unlike the KJV, the RSV, and even the NRSV or the ESV (eerily similar version), the NLT is an actual translation. The others are actually nothing more than revisions.
