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Are Many Traditional Marriage Advocates Hypocrites? Um, duh.
Posted by Joel in Homosexuality, Religion and Politics on November 8, 2010
You don’t have to be ‘for’ gay marriage in order to step back, be objective, and realize that many of those who advocate traditional marriage (see Genesis 30.14-15; 2nd Samuel 12.8; 1st Kings 11.1-3 for Traditional Marriage) are hypocritical when it comes to actually being in favor of traditional marriage (David Vitter anyone?). We say ‘one man and one woman’ but we generally do not care about anything else. This article calls attention to this, not that we should need it.
But if people really want to use the Bible as our governing legal document, then we need many constitutional amendments, including one that bans divorce except in the very narrow circumstances the Bible permits it. This would be a tough one for evangelicals, since their divorce rate is almost identical to that of atheists and agnostics. This might explain why you don’t see evangelical leaders pumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into campaigns to keep the government from providing divorce.
Read the rest here…
Hypocrisy shrouds the gay marriage debate – USATODAY.com.
My position is that we start to work on the family first and not worry about what Adam and Steve are doing down the street.
Solid Christian Beliefs… I wish fags would just commit suicide
Posted by Joel in Homosexuality, Religion and Politics on October 27, 2010

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I hate writing things like that, because I don’t say that word, not even in Britain, if I had to ask for a cigarette, which of course I don’t smoke. But, this gets me.
A member of an Arkansas school board wrote –
Of course my kids will know better. My kids will have solid christian beliefs. See it infects everyone.
Now, what are these ‘solid christian beliefs’?
McCance wrote the following message on his Facebook page: “Seriously they want me to wear purple because five queers killed themselves. The only way im wearin it for them is if they all commit suicide. I cant believe the people of this world have gotten this stupid. We are honoring the fact that they sinned and killed thereselves because of their sin. REALLY PEOPLE.”
Initially, six people “liked” McCance’s message. He also received supportive comments, though some challenged his statement. A commenter wrote, “Because hatred is always right.” That led McCance to write, “No because being a fag doesn’t give you the right to ruin the rest of our lives. If you get easily offended by being called a fag then dont tell anyone you are a fag. Keep that s*** to yourself. I dont care how people decide to live their lives. They dont bother me if they keep it to thereselves. It p****s me off though that we make a special purple fag day for them. I like that fags cant procreate. I also enjoy the fact that they often give each other aids and die. If you arent against it, you might as well be for it.”[…]
“I would disown my kids they were gay. They will not be welcome at my home or in my vicinity. I will absolutely run them off. Of course my kids will know better. My kids will have solid christian beliefs. See it infects everyone.”
Would anyone care to show me these believes in the bible? You know, the New Testament? Is this your solid christian beliefs?
And, for your viewing pleasure –
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Gary Glenn, AFA Takes on Christian-ity over Homosexual Bullying in Michigan
Posted by Joel in Homosexuality on October 4, 2010
I haven’t found my voice here – not yet.
Regardless of how you feel about homosexuality, we must still speak openly to human dignity, to humanity, and to person-hood. There is little in atheism – that I see – which speaks to these things as centerpieces of the human experience. It is through this theology – and for me, exclusively Christian Theology – which highlights humanity as the centerpiece of God’s Creation.
Christian’s blog notes…
If you think this isn’t a problem, just look at the recent news from this week alone:
- Asher Brown, a 13-year-old boy from Houston, was fed up with being called “different names for being homosexual” for two years and shot himself.
- Seth Walsh, a 13-year-old boy from Tehachapi, Calif. died Tuesday after hanging himself from a tree in his backyard. He was tormented by students for being gay.
- And, in the most publicized story, Tyler Clementi, an 18-year-old student at Rutgers University in New Jersey jumped off a bridge to his death after his roommate secretly recorded him having sex with a man and streamed it live on the internet.
- Also this week we heard the story of 11-year-old Tyler Wilson from Ohio whose arm was broken by bullies that don’t like Tyler being a cheerleader.
This is in response in the AFA’s announcement of their opposition to the Bullying Bill in Michigan. Gary Glenn, president of the American Family Association responds. I would urge you to read Christian’s post and Gary’s response. Be fair, understanding. Chime in if you can. Remember human dignity. Remember Christian love, justice and fairness.
Also, check out this opinion piece by Jonathan Capehart on the rash of suicides by gay youth this past month.
Friends, for a particular reason, this issue is close to my heart.
Here is another view on why this is a Theological Issue.
By the way, October is National Bullying Prevention Month.
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A drug that would ensure your baby is not a lesbian?
Posted by Newtaste in Gender Issues, Homosexuality on August 16, 2010
So you want to ensure your baby is not a lesbian. A side effect of a drug that prevents ambiguous genitalia, seems to make that possible, according to the Los Angeles Times.
Each year in the United States, perhaps a few dozen pregnant women learn they are carrying a fetus at risk for a rare disorder known as congenital adrenal hyperplasia. The condition causes an accumulation of male hormones and can, in females, lead to genitals so masculinized that it can be difficult at birth to determine the baby’s gender.
A hormonal treatment to prevent ambiguous genitalia can now be offered to women who may be carrying such infants. It’s not without health risks, but to its critics those are of small consequence compared with this notable side effect: The treatment might reduce the likelihood that a female with the condition will be homosexual. Further, it seems to increase the chances that she will have what are considered more feminine behavioral traits.
That such a treatment would ever be considered, even to prevent genital abnormalities, has outraged gay and lesbian groups, troubled some doctors and fueled bioethicists’ debate about the nature of human sexuality.
Another step along the path of ‘designer babies’ and scientists ‘playing God’? I need more time to contemplate this, but I don’t like it.
Full story: Medical treatment carries possible side effect of limiting homosexuality | Los Angeles Times
Interaction: God, Science, Sex, Gender – An Interdisciplinary Approach to Christian Ethics (1)
Posted by Joel in Book Review, Gender Issues, Homosexuality, Science on August 10, 2010
This will be a continuing dialogue as I read through this book.
In what is bound to elicit heated arguments from all sides of the debate, the editors have compiled a series of essays, all connected to each other, delivered in symposium style concerning the ongoing debate in (mainly) the Catholic Church about the roll in which science should play in determining human sexuality ethics. I said Catholic because while this book has at the purpose ‘Christian’ ethics, it is generally written to that of the Catholic ethicist by prominent Catholic ethicists. This is not to say that others should not read and draw from the discussions, but the role of authority may be expressed and defined differently based on the denomination.
The book contains three parts, with the first part comprised of five essays essentially laying the ground work for discussion to come. Beginning with Jon Nilson‘s historical critique on authority in the Catholic Church in which Nilson doesn’t rely upon Tradition, but attempts to correct perceived notions of Papal infallibility and hierarchy. While the history of Papal infallibility may not be known to many, what is even more unknown is the deciding factor in which many of the Cardinals had already vacated the See to return home, leaving the vote easily cast in favor of the sitting Pope’s view. Further, Nilson goes into the loosening of the hierarchical rolls leading upon to Vatican II and what should have emerged from that Council. Detected in his language, is the acceptance of the present system but only as far as history would allow. For him, this insistence into monarchical authority in Rome must be challenged by courageous theologians because,
(F)irst, to remind us all that the whole Church is not yet of one mind on issues of sexuality and, no less important, to give heart to those who have been marginalized in the Church for their sexuality and/or gender who have suffered greatly on account of it.
Nilson’s view on authority is not based in Rome, but in changing trends, a view in which he meets with resistance by Anne E. Figert‘s essay on the disputes between scientific and religious authority.
She brings to bear her sociological background in helping to show several weaknesses in surrendering to the weight of Science that which may in fact be contained in the realm of Religion, especially when both hemispheres tend to be absolute only in public. She deals with Weber and Dawkins, discussing the roll in which Religion figures as an Authority and compares it to the Authority of Science, and rightly notes that challenges to both are ‘more driven by human politics, economics, and power struggles than their claims to the pure pursuit of the truth might suggest.’ Figert describes the current boundary disputes, and just what roll Science plays in the hearts and minds of followers. This is important, especially since she notes a report by Gilbert and Mulkay in 1984 in which it was found that scientists have a different discourse in private. They are much less absolute and often times presented as competent. Figert’s essay serves to remind us of the boundary disputes and that in both areas, human politics are a driving force.
Following this is Fred Kniss who admits that framing the debate on human sexuality in the way it has been has already ‘almost necessarily pitted itself against science.’ Admitting that conflicts, such as the one discussed, are social issues but still sees the need to rely upon Science. In a brief, but powerfully open-ended essay, Kniss never comes fully to determining ‘natural’ and which sphere of authority should decide it, but does present a solid overview of the impacts of the controversy into the arenas of our lives. In what should be a common chapter in most political science text book, Kniss shows the almost hypocritical political and religious spheres in which the individual as moral project is weighed against the locus of authority.
In the final two essays of the first part, Francis J. Catania and Patricia Beattie Jung bring into the discussion Thomas Aquinas (and by virtue, Aristotle). Both present a saintly picture of Aquinas as the example for allowing Science to share, in part, in the realm of Religious Authority, at least when it comes to dictating ethics based on observable fact. Dealing with the subject of ‘human flourishing’ and the changing notion of sexual morality inside the Roman Catholic Church, each author separately builds the case the science has and could benefit theological and ethical discussions. There is, without a doubt, a large change which has taken place in the teachings on sexuality by Rome within the past century, even before Vatican II. Both authors trace this, somewhat, to Thomas Aquinas, and indeed, the ancient writer has seen a resurgence in Catholicism lately, and indeed, Christian scholasticism. How far they could bring him, however, is yet to be determined.
Why? Because while the interdisciplinary approach works well, no one has laid the foundation for ‘natural,’ ‘nature,’ and who decided what is ‘natural’ is still morally, theologically, and ethically ‘good.’ While discussing gender roles, the role in which sexual intimacy plays in marriage, and the current role and future of celibacy, we find historical changes, opposition, and flat out refusal to abide by Roman attitudes to such for the past two millennia (even in Rome herself) but these discussions present a stark difference to the current one on homosexuality. While the others have been, at sometimes, heated, homosexuality and the question of ‘if it is natural, is it divinely sanctioned’ is volatile.
The essays are well written, well supported, and provide a great companion to the discussion on-going in many theological realms.
Are molested children more likely to be gay?
Posted by Joel in Homosexuality on July 24, 2010
I realize that this may be offensive to some. My goal is to confront those who believe that merely praying away either child molestation or homosexuality is an injustice to the person and just plain stupid.
Children who are sexually abused or raped are three times more likely to grow up to be gay or bisexual, a controversial new Christchurch study shows.
But gay leaders have questioned whether anything could “cause” people to be gay.
Otago University researcher associate professor Elisabeth Wells has looked at the connection between adverse childhood events and sexuality and found those who experienced trauma were significantly more likely to be non-heterosexual.
The study used results from the New Zealand Mental Health Survey, which surveyed almost 13,000 people aged over 16 between 2003 and 2004.
via Abused ‘more likely to be gay’ – national | Stuff.co.nz.
A few things to remember – look at the sampling size. Second, it doesn’t say that all homosexuality is caused by abuse, but the evidence is clear that many of those who are abused grow up confused about themselves in such a horrible way. I see a difference there, but some may not.
We have to admit that sexual abuse does warp people, and those children who have been robbed of their innocence need special attention and help. This is not something to hide behind pseudo-prayer doctrines which mount to nothing more than a second abuse of the child.
Anyway, what say yet?
In the Mail: I will anger some of you edition
Posted by Joel in Book Review, Gender Issues, Homosexuality, Science on June 26, 2010
Publisher’s Description:
“God, Sex, Science, Gender: An Interdisciplinary Approach to Christian Ethics” is a timely, wide-ranging attempt to rescue dialogues on human sexuality, sexual diversity, and gender from insular exchanges based primarily on biblical scholarship and denominational ideology. Too often, dialogues on sexuality and gender devolve into the repetition of party lines and defensive postures, without considering the interdisciplinary body of scholarly research on this complex subject. This volume expands beyond the usual parameters, opening the discussion to scholars in the humanities, social sciences, and natural sciences to foster the development of Christian sexual ethics for contemporary times. Essays by prominent and emerging scholars in the fields of anthropology, sociology, psychology, philosophy, literary studies, theology, and ethics reveal how faith and reason can illuminate our understanding of human sexual and gender diversity. Focusing on the intersection of theology and science and incorporating feminist theory, “God, Sex, Science, Gender” is a much-needed call for Christian ethicists to map the origins and full range of human sexual experience and gender identity. Essays delve into why human sexuality and gender can be so controversial in Christian contexts, investigate the complexity of sexuality in humans and other species, and reveal the implications of diversity for Christian moral theology.
I am not a foe of science, believing that it shows us the how to God’s what. The eighth day is still going on, in my opinion.
But, no doubt, as I settle in to review this book, and in doing so, I will upset or anger, disappoint or alienate a few readers. Perhaps instead of the negativity, we can discuss what the book has to say rationally and in Christian love.
Perhaps?






