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The SBL New Testament?
Posted by Joel in Criticism, New Testament on October 26, 2010
Jeremiah woke me up early this morning with news that the SBL is coming out with a critical text for the Greek New Testament. We think.
You can find the website here…
Does anyone have any clue about this?
Thoughts on T. Scott’s Seven Deadly Spirits, The Message of Revelation’s Letters for Today’s Church
Posted by Joel in Book Review, Revelation on October 25, 2010
While reading this short book, I had trouble with wanting to see it as an exegesis on the historical situation of the Seven Churches in Asia and what the original author was trying to communicate. Further, I wanted a historical critical take on the book, and instead, I walked away with a practical theological assessment of the book, which while akin to William Barclay, presented a modern application of those letters. While I completely disagree with him on several minor details, I had to step back and remember that the book’s purpose was not to engage the original audience of the text, but the audience of the modern church. What really stood out was the author’s personal connection in life experiences to these letters, which I think is the real key to understanding the long controversial book. It was not about secret code words, only to be deciphered fifteen minutes after the end of the world, but the original intent of the book was to speak to the audience and to any audience in perpetuity, about their current condition, whether it is apathy, love or persecution. What Daniels has done is to scrape off some of the patina of countless and needless interpretative attempts to make, at the very least, these letters applicable to the modern Church.
Of the seven letters, two portions stood out to me, namely Ephesians and his postscript. In the letter to Ephesians Daniels calls for a more generous orthodoxy. For this letter, his focus is on this passage found in Revelation 2.2-4, on what they did right and what they did wrong. The Ephesians had orthodoxy (although, admittedly, while Revelation was written sometime around 96 according to many scholars, there was most likely not a general orthodoxy subscribed to by the communities interpreting the message of Christ) but they had lost the love of one another. Daniels quotes, Barclay,
It may be that a hard, censorious, critical, fault-finding, stern self-righteousness had banished the spirit of love… Strict orthodoxy can cost too much, if it has to be bought at the price of love. (p39)
Daniels further notes:
Few if any of us who are believers accepted Christ into our lives because we were doctrinally argued into the Church. It was the love of God demonstrated in the life of the Spirit-filled body of Christ that wooed us into relationship with the Father….(p40)
…. However, there is something in letter from the Revelator that desires the Church in Ephesus to place orthopraxy (rightly living out the faith) or orthopathy (having the right heart or spirit) above orthodoxy (mentally assenting to correct doctrine as cognitive propositions). (p42)
I believe that he is partially correct here – that doctrine is not what draws us to Christ so much as what explains to us that call and the life led thereafter. I have a problem with his apparent lack of focus; instead of maintaining orthodoxy, he is in favor of practice and love as a measure of unity. I mean, what’s that all about?
Daniels then goes on to speak about Scripture in a communal setting on page 135 and 136, noting that we read ‘Scripture in community to learn to interpret ourselves and the world as Christians.’ This passage stood out as one which is needful at this present time. We have a large and ever growing community as the world gets smaller. Perhaps one of the best things to happen to (Western) Christianity in this century is the rise of the New Atheists (Dawkins, Hitchens) and their militant campaign against religion in general and more specifically, Christianity. The voices of the New Atheists focuses us on scholarship, theology, and looking at our presentation of the Gospel Message. Further, I think that we have to hear the voices of those who believe that Leviticus is a New Testament book or that women are nothing more than property with a voice heard only at the request of her husband. With that said, Daniels’ reading of these letters is part of this embodiment of the Scriptures in community (136), and while I disagree with him, mainly in his interpretation of Thyatira, I find that there is much here to listen to and to learn from.
I feel that Daniel’s section on Thyatira is lacking in grounding, with his dualist notions of what the problem in that city is unsupported by history or text. While his other letters are generally found to have some historical reality, this section seems almost to be pulled out of the very thin air of speculation, and mediocre air at that. I think that there are other ‘real life’ examples and applications that could be drawn from the situation in Thyatira, notably the fact that a woman, unquestioning, was allowed to preach.
The minister, whether pastor, subordinate or simply lay, should be able to gain a great deal from the book. Notably, the fact that Revelation is applicable today, and not as fictional tales told to scare people into serving God, but real theological discussions meant to encourage conversations about what may be holding congregations back from growth. I think that the author does a fair job of naming the problems which plague many churches. Whether a too-strict orthodoxy which strangles the orthopathy, the consumerism which leads to the commodification of the Christian faith (47), accommodation, individualism in a faith community, or apathy (93) the spirits of the congregations envelope these groups and are self-feeding. In turn, these possessed congregations will select, either actively or through passive support of, leaders who feed into their spiritual need to neglect the Gospel. Further, Daniels helps to counter such rants as we see today against corporate salvation and stands firm against the American introduction to an individualistic faith. The author calls every congregation and ever leader in a congregation to name the spirits that plagues them and to use Scripture in a communal application against them.
Christ to the Ephesians – A More Generous Orthodoxy? Or Maybe Orthopathy?
Posted by Joel in Revelation on October 21, 2010
This is a book we are examining in Church Renewal Class…
Written by T. Scott Daniels, the senior pastor of First Church of the Nazarene in Pasadena, California, it takes the seven mini-epistles from Christ to the churches in Asia and applies them as a method of peering into the causes of congregational dysfunction.
For this letter, his focus is on this passage – the what they did right and what they did wrong:
“I know all the things you do. I have seen your hard work and your patient endurance. I know you don’t tolerate evil people. You have examined the claims of those who say they are apostles but are not. You have discovered they are liars.You have patiently suffered for me without quitting.
“But I have this complaint against you. You don’t love me or each other as you did at first! (Rev 2:2-4 NLT)
The Ephesians had orthodoxy (although, admittedly, while Revelation was written sometime around 96 according to most, there was really a flexible orthodoxy, more so than today) but they had lost the love of one another. Daniels quotes, Barclay,
It may be that a hard, censorious, critical, fault-finding, stern self-righteousness had banished the spirit of love… Strict orthodoxy can cost too much, if it has to be bought at the price of love. (p39)
Daniels further notes…
Few if any of us who are believers accepted Christ into our lives because we were doctrinally argued into the Church. It was the love of God demonstrated in the life of the Spirit-filled body of Christ that wooed us into relationship with the Father….(p40)
…. However, there is something in letter from the Revelator that desires the Church in Ephesus to place orthopraxy (rightly living out the faith) or orthopathy (having the right heart or spirit) above orthodoxy (mentally assenting to correct doctrine as cognitive propositions). (p42)
I believe that he is partially correct here – that doctrine is not what draws us to Christ so much as was explains us that call and the life led thereafter. I have a problem with his apparent lack of focus; instead of maintaining orthodoxy, he is in favor of practice and love as a measure of unity. I mean, what’s that all about?
Did Paul have the stigmata?
Posted by Newtaste in New Testament on October 5, 2010
Did Paul the Apostle have the ‘stigmata’? Paul wrote in his suffering:
From now on, don’t let anyone trouble me with these things. For I bear on my body the scars that show I belong to Jesus. Galatians 6:17 (NLT)
I am glad when I suffer for you in my body, for I am participating in the sufferings of Christ that continue for his body, the church. Colossians 1:24 (NLT)
even though I have received such wonderful revelations from God. So to keep me from becoming proud, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger from Satan to torment me and keep me from becoming proud. 2 Corinthians 12:7 (NLT)
In Acts:
God gave Paul the power to perform unusual miracles. When handkerchiefs or aprons that had merely touched his skin were placed on sick people, they were healed of their diseases, and evil spirits were expelled. Acts 19:11-12 (NLT)
One theory is that the handkerchiefs in Acts were soaked in blood from Paul’s wounds, wounds resembling Jesus’ Crucifixion wounds. Thomas Aquinas wrote that:
For stigmata are, strictly speaking, certain marks branded on one with a hot iron; as when a slave is marked on the face by his master, so that no one else will claim him, but quietly let him remain with the master whose marks he bears. And this is the way the Apostle says he bears the marks of the Lord, branded, as it were, as a slave of Christ; and this, because he bore the marks of Christ’s passion, suffering many tribulations in his body for Him, according to the saying of 1 Peter (2:21): “Christ suffered for us, leaving you an example, that you should follow his steps”; “Always bearing about in our body the mortification of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be made manifest in our mortal flesh” (2 Cor 4: 10). Galations by St. Thomas Aquinas
Aquinas is of the opinion that the wounds of Paul referred to were caused by the beatings he suffered in defending Jesus. The NIV Study Bible notes for Galatians 6:17 “Paul’s suffering (stoning, beating, illness) marked him as a servant of Jesus”.
There is no doubt that Paul suffered greatly and would have been covered in scars. I think that Thomas Aquinas is right in that Paul did not have the ‘stigmata’, meaning he did not have wounds resembling the wounds of Jesus. If the phenomena of the ‘stigmata’ exists, it would require God to intentionally inflict pain and suffering on someone who loves Him. My own belief is that God would have not intentionally inflicted pain on Paul, as Paul had faith in Jesus.
Mark Goodacre, T.C., N.T. Wright and the New Testament
Posted by Joel in Criticism, New Testament on September 23, 2010
This was recorded a year so ago, but still relevant. As I watching it, I noticed that T.C.‘s question was asked and answered by Dr. Goodacre. It involved N.T. Wright, who some consider the greatest New Testament scholar since before Paul.
You’ll just have to watched all of it to find it.
Also, for great podcasts on the New Testament, you might check Dr. Goodacre’s other sites…
Did Paul Believe or otherwise know of the Virgin Birth?
Or so was the question posed last night. As we know from the Creeds, the Virgin Birth of Jesus Christ expressly state that it was a doctrine of the Church. Yet, Paul never once mentions it.
What made Jesus, well, Jesus? For Paul, it was the resurrection and the Davidic line:
This letter is from Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, chosen by God to be an apostle and sent out to preach his Good News. God promised this Good News long ago through his prophets in the holy Scriptures.
The Good News is about his Son, Jesus. In his earthly life he was born into King David’s family line, and he was shown to be the Son of God when he was raised from the dead by the power of the Holy Spirit. He is Jesus Christ our Lord.(Rom 1:1-4 NLT)
Of course, there is that one instance in Galatians…
But when the right time came, God sent his Son, born of a woman, subject to the law. (Gal 4:4 NLT)
In my opinion, Paul may be thinking of Genesis 3.15:
And I will cause hostility between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring. He will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.” (Gen 3:15 NLT)
For Paul, which is summed up in 1st Corinthians 15, the Gospel comes down to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. But, then again, he may not have needed to address a Virgin Birth….
Oh, and other people during that time period claimed the same miraculous birth – such as Vespasian.
So, why do you think Paul didn’t include the Virgin Birth in his preamble to the Romans, or anywhere really, to show who Jesus Christ was?
Oh, and because I have to clarify in to day and time… yes, I believe in the Virgin Birth…how the authors meant it.
Was Paul a Convert?
No, not really. He believed in God, but didn’t know who Christ was. Unlike many who do neither, Paul’s Damascus road experience wasn’t a conversion, but in reality, it was more along the lines of the call of a prophet. For me, I don’t think that the Parting of the Ways occurred at Pentecost, nor anytime there after.
The book to your left is one of those provided for our Wednesday evening church class on Romans. Tonight, we will be tackling the first chapter of it and while I am tempted to give you the reading assignments, etc… I won’t. I mean, they have several of those books for a penny (plus 3.99 in shipping).
However, one of their points is that Paul wasn’t a convert. He wasn’t. He was still a Jew, but he was introduced to the Son.
But even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace. Then it pleased him to reveal his Son to me so that I would proclaim the Good News about Jesus to the Gentiles.When this happened, I did not rush out to consult with any human being. (Gal 1:15-16 NLT)
Compare that with Romans 1.1:
Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, (Rom 1:1 NASB)
Paul believed in YHWH, but though the experience of God’s calling, he was introduced to the Son and set apart to reveal the Gospel. His eyes were opened, you might say, but I don’t think he changed religions.
Also, because chapter 1 is uber-controversial, I will be bringing my post on Paul’s rhetorical device in the first few chapters.
As I did with Ruth, no doubt I will be posting a few things tomorrow on tonight’s discussion.





